Saturday, December 12, 2009

Christians stealing again...

You all know that Xians stole Yule already some 1500 years ago. Now they are stealing Chanukah.

You see, Xians have never understood this "yours - mine" division of things. They see the world as "things that are mine" and "things that are ours". To them there are no "things that are yours". I suppose they cannot help it, as everything they have, they have stolen from someone else. How could they understand that they cannot both have the cake and eat it, when they have been doing just that the last 1700 years?

It all started some 2000 years ago in the Roman empire. Romans have never understood this "mine-yours" idea either. They too always took what they fancied and adjusted it to fit their purposes. In this great melting pot, they took some Greek ideas of God, like Bacchus and Apollon, some Egyptian ideas of God, like Horus and Isis and some Persian ideas of God, like Mithras, added to that the Jewish ideas of God, shook it and out came Xianity. Now, they were used to have a big, lovely party at Midwinter, celebrate New Year, exchange gifts, eat well, drink and have fun. Of course, they didn't want to stop that, so they didn't stop it. We can see it so clearly today, most people celebrate "christmas", which of course means "let's decorate the house, eat well and exchange gifts". The Pagan Midwinter is a lovely celebration.

Now, the Xians claim that their God, Jesus, IS the Jewish moschiach. They claim that they do believe the Bible is God's Word, and what is said in the Bible is The Holy Truth and may not be changed... but... The Bible tells very strictly and often that people who follow the One God may not follow other people's ways in anything. Those ways are either futile or lead to a lot of bad things.

Leviticus 18:3
"You shall not do what is done in the land of Egypt where you lived, nor are you to do what is done in the land of Canaan where I am bringing you"

Leviticus 20:23
'Moreover, you shall not follow the customs of the nation which I will drive out before you"

Jeremiah 10:2
"This is what the LORD says: "Do not learn the ways of the nations"
We know very well what these "ways of the nations" were and the command in Bible doesn't only mean religious or spiritual ways, and astrology, sex and such, even though a lot of Xians like to think that way.
Also, most of the Yule traditions the Xians have stolen ARE religious of nature. Holly, ivy and mistletoe are used to decorate houses to PROTECT them from malicious forces that run wildly in the world during Midwinter. Evergreens are the Pagan God's promise of that life will return. Candles, fires and lights are sympathetic magic to call back the sun. Reindeers, squirrels, robins and other forest creatures depicted at Yuletide all have symbolic meaning in the magical, religious Pagan life. Things were holy and sacred to European Pagans already before God spoke to Abraham.

But - it's too late to do anything about this theft. But there's another theft going on as we speak, and THAT can be done something about. The Xians are stealing Chanukkah.
They are assigning it new, Xian significance, they are creating their own Xian traditions, they are telling people to start looking at the Jews - AGAIN - as their own religion is not strong enough to carry them, but they can see, that the Jews are still among us, even when the Middle Eastern people have tried to eradicate them from the face of earth already 4000 years, and the Xians have tried the last 1700 years... They whine about Xians being "persecuted", while the Jewish people is STILL the most persecuted group of people in the humankind's history, and even when it's not as bad as it was some 60 years ago, it still exists.

It is so darned offensive and insulting!

That there are not enough miracles in Xianity, so that they have to start looking for other people's miracles and own them, is not an indication enough to them that there's something seriously lacking in their own religion... oh no... the fault is never theirs, and stealing has worked through their whole existence... but if they actually would read their holy scripture, they might realize that perhaps God has "abandoned" them, because they have abandoned Him. They are trying to follow other people's Gods and adapting other people's ways.

Here's the blog that first alarmed me of this theft happening:
"Heart of wisdom" - a Christian woman offering "hanukkah gifts" for other Christians :->

then I noticed that this theft has been going on for a longer time:
Understanding Chanukkah for Christian Teens

Now, why would a Christian Teen care about Jewish holidays?
You see... Judaism is still strong and still the oldest and the original Abrahamic religion, and the two others; Xianity and Islam will never forget nor forgive. So they are trying to "make it go away", both in their own ways. Xianity has started doing what they did to Pagans: they adopt the Jewish ways, start calling them Xian and then start teaching Xianity as the "true" Judaism. You can see it happening with the so called "Messianic Jews", who are not Messianic Jews at all, but Christians. You see, if you a Jewish - or anything else - and you believe Jesus Miriamson is the Messiah and Savior and God, you ARE Christian. Of course you are still ethnically Jewish, but not religiously, and claiming that you are is a BIG, STINKING, DISGUSTING LIE.
This is the reason to why Xians now show interest to JEWISH holidays. They beat Pagans through stealing their holidays, like Yule, so they are trying to beat the Jews through stealing their holidays :-> It's not just something "innocent and well-meaning". It's a war against Jews and inherently anti-semitic.

To me this matter is clear, and to quote a catholic priest in a Jewish story:
“There wouldn’t be any Christmas if there wasn’t any Chanukah, but we can't celebrate Channukkah because it’s not a Christian Holiday. Indeed, we don’t even celebrate Shabbat, and that’s one of the Ten Commandments. Ours is a different religion, with its own holidays and beliefs.”
And as a Jewish man answered to a Christian girl asking why Christians don't celebrate Chanukah:
"Also Christians believe in the Old Testament which IS the Jewish Bible The Torah... why don't they celebrate Chanukah?"

"This is actually kind of an interesting question, because the Hasmonean Rebellion actually pre-dates Christianity, and since Christians claim the existence of a Judeo-Christian tradition, one would wonder why they didn't co-opt the celebration of Chanukah. In fact, the first and second books of Maccabees are in the Apocrypha, and as such, made it into the Catholic Bible, but neither the Jewish nor Protestant ones.

I think the answer to this second question is philosophical. Chanukah represents the Jewish refusal to be assimilated, and a rejection of the detestible aspects of Hellenistic culture (the events leading up to the re-dedication of the Temple - that's what the word "Chanukah" refers to - were actually a civil war between the Torah Jews and the Hellenized Jews, as well as the clash between the Torah Jews and the Greeks themselves). Since Christianity represents the ultimate synthesis of Jewish theology and Hellenistic culture, it's only natural that the celebration of Chanukah would be an anathema to true Christians."
And this is from "December Dilemma"
"Jews "celebrating" Christmas is an insult to those Christians who take the holiday seriously."
And so is Christians "celebrating" Chanukkah, an insult to those Jews who take the holiday seriously.
You weren't fighting, your ancestors weren't fighting, you have no part of the victory nor the miracle. Don't try to take it either.

P.S. I found this:
Of course, the Xians who like to hide their true character by calling themselves "Messianic Jews" have been adding Xian significance to the Jewish holidays for a very long time...


HeartofWisdom said...


We are all here by plan and purpose of God.

The deepest longing of our hearts is to be known by God the Father himself, and not just known but loved and cherished and appreciated.

I celebrate I have been adopted into the family of God and have the same rights as His heirs through His Jewish son Yeshua.

I celebrate all days in remembrance of Him and His beautiful sacrifice made to bring me into the family. Especially days of miracles that saved the Jewish race.

I don’t mean to offend you. I have deep respect for you as the choosen ones.

Romans 11:11-14, Paul talks about how the salvation of the Gentiles will provoke the Jews to jealousy, so that some of them will be saved.

Please understand I am not into replacement theology. I do NOT believe Church has replaced the Jewish people and is now the “new Israel.”

God kept His covenant with Israel even when they were in sin. He promises in His word that He will always be with them in their time of need.

I know what the Jews have with God is is a true and everlasting covenant. (Gen. 13:14-17; 17:8`) But I also know that because of Christ I have been grafted into this family.

God Bless You Ketutar. He loves you soooo much. You zeal for Him is beautiful.

Steph said...

Exodus 3:15
And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations. (He is not just the God of the Jews, He is the God of the WHOLE HOUSE of ISRAEL, including their fathers and their brethren!)

Zechariah 14
8And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
16And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

according to your logic you call the Lord a liar in that only Jews should obey Him. Your logic is a stumbling block and is evil in nature, contrary to what the Living word of God tells us. The Word tells us directly that it is the WILL OF YHWH for EVERYONE TO OBEY HIM and for EVERYONE — ALL NATIONS to observe HIS Holy Days, and those who refuse are the ones who will be punished. You wish punishment on all of the world? That is diametrically opposite to what God wills, and that means you are an enemy of Him.

Steph said...

The heart of the problem is that you are referring to things as being yours when they do not belong to anyone at all. Holy Days belong to NO HUMAN BEING. They are a gift from YHWH to ALL NATIONS WHO ARE WILLING TO OBEY. (I don't celebrate hannukkah--it is a memorial and not a Holy Day, I don't celebrate xmas, or any other pagan day, I don't believe there is room for compromise with the Word of God) I do believe you are being thoroughly selfish in your post, and laying stumblingblocks before sincere people who are seeking to please God. They don't answer to you, they answer to the Lord God Almighty and when you attack people who are seeking to honor our Creator, then you face the wrath of Him and for that...all I can say is that I really feel sorry for you for bringing trials upon yourself and your family, and that I will be praying for you.